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Talk about what really happened
      #4964 - 12/21/04 05:03 PM

Osama 2001

Tora Bora, Afghanistan. December 5, 2001: Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda terrorist network are responsible for an incalculable number of bombings, kidnappings, and suicide missions, including the attacks of September 11, 2001. US military and political leaders respond to that horrific act of terrorism with brute military force, calling in a bombing campaign over Afghanistan designed to rout out Taliban and al Qaeda forces buried in the nation's mountains. But a decision to employ Afghan fighters instead of US troops in the ground portion of the assault could have made a difference in whether or not Osama bin Laden was eventually caught.

Two months into the campaign, military officials get a break. Intelligence sources place Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora, a complex system of underground tunnels and caves al Qaeda successfully used as a stronghold against Soviet forces in the 1980s. The 10th Mountain Division arrives, accompanied by Afghan soldiers who are responsible for penetrating the caves. For two weeks, aided by US and British air support, 2,000 Afghan fighters battle al Qaeda through the ominous and violent underworld.

But the main target slips away. The US loses its grip on Osama bin Laden and the military tactics used at Tora Bora will be debated in the years to come.


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Re: Talk about what really happened new [Re: Jon]
      #5302 - 01/06/05 07:43 AM

I'm a former Brit soldier with lots of contacts both in UK and US forces. Tora Bora was botched unfortunately. A patrol of UK special forces(SBS), was due to move in on Tora Bora and 'contain' the area in which Bin Laden was. However the pentagon ie Tommy Franks called them off. This may have been out of an understandable desire to have US forces capture the main enemy but the fact that it was then botched up is rather inexcusable. Later a patrol from 5th Special Forces group(US), thought they sighted him but were unable to move in and nab him due to being ordered to 'wait'. Don't take my word for it read 'task force dagger' for a fuller description. I enjoy Kumawar but don't really see the point in playing out sucessful versions of historical missions that failed at the time. Eg Eagle Claw/Tora Bora. More input about the Brits would be great too as we are allied with the US in the war on terror, unlike certain European countries i could mention!

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Re: Talk about what really happened new [Re: trooper27]
      #5355 - 01/07/05 10:52 AM

We would like to do a mission featuring British Forces. Is there one you would recommend?

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Re: Talk about what really happened new [Re: Dante]
      #5358 - 01/07/05 12:19 PM

A good mission featuring Brit Forces was operaration Barras, in Siera Leone 2000. Read Damien lewis's book 'Operation certain death'. What happened was a patrol of soldiers from the Royal Irish regiment were being held hostage by a rebel militia called the West side boys. A rescue mission was mounted by a force of SAS soldiers and Paratroopers. All hostages were resued after a protracted firefight that saw the end of the west side boys. Sadly an SAS soldier was KIA. There is plenty about Op Barras on Google. It would make a good mission as the hostages were held in a jungle village by a heavily armed militia, equipped with AK's, RPG's. mortars and DHSK 12.7mm MGs. The SAS went in as a 'snatch' squad to liberate the captives, from a hut in the rebel village. Whilst the Comapny of Paratroopers assaulted the rebel stronghold as a diversion. It would make a good mission as the hostage rescue element of the mission involved a lot of stealth, wheras the Para part of the mission was a classic aggressive helibourne assault. There were approximately 60 SAS involved and 90 Paras. According to some sources the west side boys suffered over 100 KIA! Murphy's law dictated that there were more militia than previously thought in the village and they choose to fight!

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Re: Talk about what really happened new [Re: trooper27]
      #5589 - 01/13/05 02:46 PM

I like this. I will look into it, no promises though. If we had do a mission from the Iraq/Aghanistan theatres, can you suggest anything--some element of taking basra perhaps or some sas operation???

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Re: Talk about what really happened new [Re: trooper27]
      #5721 - 01/16/05 07:55 PM

I was on this mission and I remember it clearly.Yes we had one lost and six wounded but at the end of the day we got everyone back and had an outragoues pissup at the end.Incidentaly the DHSK 12.7mm was ripped apart from sustained fire from one of our aircraft on site.

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Re: Talk about what really happened new [Re: Anonymous]
      #5787 - 01/18/05 12:11 PM

If you guys feel like doing a Desert Storm mission some time, I recall reading British SAS forces did a lot of covert missions taking out SCUD missile launchers and Iraqi communications facilities, early in the war. The small scale of those would probably lend itself well to Kuma War.

Found this page on it:
The SAS Operations in the Gulf


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Re: Talk about what really happened new [Re: Jon]
      #7552 - 02/18/05 07:37 AM

nice !!

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